Recommend a PDR man to me (dent remover)
Yes I think you'll be right...I'm just trying to be hopeful!
I'm currently trying to choose the right ceramic coat...I know none completely resist scratches or even swirls 100% but Titan seem to have properties which help resist swirls more than others...could be a load of bull though...unless someone can tell me, from experience of the products, otherwise
2021 Macan GTS Jet Black with Full Espresso Leather
2018 Macan in Agate grey (now sold)
Audi B5 RS4 - tweaked a little bit
Lotus Elise S1 Sport 160
2018 Macan in Agate grey (now sold)
Audi B5 RS4 - tweaked a little bit
Lotus Elise S1 Sport 160
I had Gtechniq ceramic (platinum) and PPF on my Macan. The 911 will not be getting either and will be treated to elbow grease and occasional wax.AndyC160 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:54 pmYes I think you'll be right...I'm just trying to be hopeful!
I'm currently trying to choose the right ceramic coat...I know none completely resist scratches or even swirls 100% but Titan seem to have properties which help resist swirls more than others...could be a load of bull though...unless someone can tell me, from experience of the products, otherwise
Neither ceramic or particularly PPF are worth the expense imho.
718 Boxster - lava orange (2019)
992 C2 racing yellow (2020)
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRIMAJB4
Ex - Macan S - Carmine (2022)
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNZVYTE0
992 C2 racing yellow (2020)
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRIMAJB4
Ex - Macan S - Carmine (2022)
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNZVYTE0
It’s not bull but correct prep & application of the product is essential to get these properties.AndyC160 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:54 pm I'm currently trying to choose the right ceramic coat...I know none completely resist scratches or even swirls 100% but Titan seem to have properties which help resist swirls more than others...could be a load of bull though...unless someone can tell me, from experience of the products, otherwise
I applied gtechniq ceramic on my last Macan (£600ish via OPC) after a few months I was not convinced that I got value for money however after 3 years I gave the car to a local detailer for a thorough clean, he said he’d never seen paintwork in such good condition on a 3 year old vehicle. Was the the coating? Was it careful (& infrequent) washing? Probably a bit of both. When I got the GTS last year I also applied ceramic to it, not a single swirl to my eye yet. Is it worth the outlay to avoid a few swirls…… that’s an individual choice.
2022 Macan GTS & 718 GT4.
Past: Macan S, Audi S4 B8 Avant / Alfa 147 Q2 Diesel / Alfa 147 2.0 Selespeed
Past: Macan S, Audi S4 B8 Avant / Alfa 147 Q2 Diesel / Alfa 147 2.0 Selespeed
Hi AlfanutAlfanut wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:24 amIt’s not bull but correct prep & application of the product is essential to get these properties.AndyC160 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:54 pm I'm currently trying to choose the right ceramic coat...I know none completely resist scratches or even swirls 100% but Titan seem to have properties which help resist swirls more than others...could be a load of bull though...unless someone can tell me, from experience of the products, otherwise
I applied gtechniq ceramic on my last Macan (£600ish via OPC) after a few months I was not convinced that I got value for money however after 3 years I gave the car to a local detailer for a thorough clean, he said he’d never seen paintwork in such good condition on a 3 year old vehicle. Was the the coating? Was it careful (& infrequent) washing? Probably a bit of both. When I got the GTS last year I also applied ceramic to it, not a single swirl to my eye yet. Is it worth the outlay to avoid a few swirls…… that’s an individual choice.
What coating have you put on the GTS?
2021 Macan GTS Jet Black with Full Espresso Leather
2018 Macan in Agate grey (now sold)
Audi B5 RS4 - tweaked a little bit
Lotus Elise S1 Sport 160
2018 Macan in Agate grey (now sold)
Audi B5 RS4 - tweaked a little bit
Lotus Elise S1 Sport 160
For the GTS I opted to use a local detailer, the product he used was called Anglewax Enigma Genesis.
https://angelwax.com/angelwax-ceramic-g ... -coatings/
https://angelwax.com/angelwax-ceramic-g ... -coatings/
2022 Macan GTS & 718 GT4.
Past: Macan S, Audi S4 B8 Avant / Alfa 147 Q2 Diesel / Alfa 147 2.0 Selespeed
Past: Macan S, Audi S4 B8 Avant / Alfa 147 Q2 Diesel / Alfa 147 2.0 Selespeed
Every PPFer I spoke to asked how long I planned to keep the car, it isn't worth it for flippers like youJon A wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:58 pmI had Gtechniq ceramic (platinum) and PPF on my Macan. The 911 will not be getting either and will be treated to elbow grease and occasional wax.AndyC160 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:54 pmYes I think you'll be right...I'm just trying to be hopeful!
I'm currently trying to choose the right ceramic coat...I know none completely resist scratches or even swirls 100% but Titan seem to have properties which help resist swirls more than others...could be a load of bull though...unless someone can tell me, from experience of the products, otherwise
Neither ceramic or particularly PPF are worth the expense imho.
http://www.porsche-code.com/PP37WLA6, a Dolomite Silver S, collected from Stockport OPC on Valentine's Day 2023, after a 399 day wait.
Ex.: Gen2 S, Volcano grey 1/9/19 - 3/2/23 & 39,235 Smiles, RIP
Ex.: Gen2 S, Volcano grey 1/9/19 - 3/2/23 & 39,235 Smiles, RIP
Well that’s true! I don’t happen to think it’s worth it if you keep it forever but other opinions are availableNeil1911 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 23, 2023 7:20 pmEvery PPFer I spoke to asked how long I planned to keep the car, it isn't worth it for flippers like youJon A wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:58 pmI had Gtechniq ceramic (platinum) and PPF on my Macan. The 911 will not be getting either and will be treated to elbow grease and occasional wax.AndyC160 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:54 pm
Yes I think you'll be right...I'm just trying to be hopeful!
I'm currently trying to choose the right ceramic coat...I know none completely resist scratches or even swirls 100% but Titan seem to have properties which help resist swirls more than others...could be a load of bull though...unless someone can tell me, from experience of the products, otherwise
Neither ceramic or particularly PPF are worth the expense imho.
718 Boxster - lava orange (2019)
992 C2 racing yellow (2020)
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRIMAJB4
Ex - Macan S - Carmine (2022)
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNZVYTE0
992 C2 racing yellow (2020)
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRIMAJB4
Ex - Macan S - Carmine (2022)
http://www.porsche-code.com/PNZVYTE0
I’m very happy with my front end PPF and it’s definitely saved some stone chips and provides a level of comfort. Nothing looks worse than peppered road rash and I’d rather keep the factory paintwork
It is expensive but let’s face it, it’s going on a Porsche!!
It is expensive but let’s face it, it’s going on a Porsche!!
Macan S MY 2023
A few general comments from now owning two black Porsche...
Swirls are from washing...wash technique is everything. Jetwash and then snowfoam, jetwash off the snowfoam to lossen and soften the dirt. Two bucket wash, (I use three a separate one for the wheels). Jetwash off the suds and then final rinse with DI water and leave to dry. Maybe dab dry here and there or a blow dryer. Every other wash a quick detailer or similar to liven it up.
I've used a few different ceramic coatings. On wheels it's a no-brainer. Makes wheel cleaning so easy just soap and water for my weekly wash, and a once a year de-ionise. I've use a few over the years, Gtechniq C4 is good, Kamikaze Stance is better.
For paintwork, as others have said, it still doesn't prevent scratches. I generally pick up a few from narrow roads and bushes, seems to be unavoidable with the width of cars these days.
Some ceramic coatings are much easier and more forgiving to apply than others, the Gtechniq ones are on the harder side due to the quick flash-off times. My current favourite is Myabi coat from Kamikaze as it has a much longer removal time window. As soon as you use a topper/quick detailer over the ceramic, that becomes the beading water effect you get so what is the ceramic actually doing then...
I tend to use Kamikaze Overcoat on its own these days which is classed as a topper but lasts a few months easily, by which time it's not a big deal to reapply.
Swirls are from washing...wash technique is everything. Jetwash and then snowfoam, jetwash off the snowfoam to lossen and soften the dirt. Two bucket wash, (I use three a separate one for the wheels). Jetwash off the suds and then final rinse with DI water and leave to dry. Maybe dab dry here and there or a blow dryer. Every other wash a quick detailer or similar to liven it up.
I've used a few different ceramic coatings. On wheels it's a no-brainer. Makes wheel cleaning so easy just soap and water for my weekly wash, and a once a year de-ionise. I've use a few over the years, Gtechniq C4 is good, Kamikaze Stance is better.
For paintwork, as others have said, it still doesn't prevent scratches. I generally pick up a few from narrow roads and bushes, seems to be unavoidable with the width of cars these days.
Some ceramic coatings are much easier and more forgiving to apply than others, the Gtechniq ones are on the harder side due to the quick flash-off times. My current favourite is Myabi coat from Kamikaze as it has a much longer removal time window. As soon as you use a topper/quick detailer over the ceramic, that becomes the beading water effect you get so what is the ceramic actually doing then...
I tend to use Kamikaze Overcoat on its own these days which is classed as a topper but lasts a few months easily, by which time it's not a big deal to reapply.
2015 Macan SD
2010 997.2 4S
Gone: 1998 996 3.4 Cab, 1999 986 Boxster 2.7
2010 997.2 4S
Gone: 1998 996 3.4 Cab, 1999 986 Boxster 2.7
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