Violent shudder at high revs & warning light

[pmg]

why I only buy fuel from 90% of the UKs filling stations.

GTB

I am not understanding the 90%. You said you only buy from stations owned directly by the majors. This rules out supermarkets and sites owned by the big groups like EG and MFG. I would have thought that rules out more than 10 per cent of sites?

Also how do you or we recognise whether a site is owned directly by say Shell, BP or Esso or another major?

[GTB]

.........And might I ask which filling stations you use when taking your cars abroad, GTB? Or don’t you ever drive outside the UK?

I dont take my own cars outwith the UK, But when I do drive anywhere Internationally I will fill up at one of the major oil company sites having done some research first.

GTB

[AllanG]

.........And might I ask which filling stations you use when taking your cars abroad, GTB? Or don’t you ever drive outside the UK?

I dont take my own cars outwith the UK, But when I do drive anywhere Internationally I will fill up at one of the major oil company sites having done some research first.

GTB

Bloody ‘ell, if I did that for every fill up I’ve done during the past month here in France, I wouldn’t have time to drive my car lol!!!

Each to their own!!

[GTB]

why I only buy fuel from 90% of the UKs filling stations.

GTB

I am not understanding the 90%. You said you only buy from stations owned directly by the majors. This rules out supermarkets and sites owned by the big groups like EG and MFG. I would have thought that rules out more than 10 per cent of sites?

Also how do you or we recognise whether a site is owned directly by say Shell, BP or Esso or another major?

PMG,
My mistake should have said 10% and not 90% so I have corrected my post, apologies for any damage caused.

To recognise what filling stations are company owned and those that are dealer operated you need to go onto the websites of those majors and there is a list or map of locations. EG and MFG and others again go on their websites and they will give site locations, EG and MFG have fuel agreements in place for bp, Shell, Esso, Texaco etc so looking at the branding only indicates the fuel sold. But look at the till receipt and you will see exactly who the company is that owns the property and infrastructure, MFG sites on the signware above the front door will usually say MFG somewhere.

So to help everyone out here is the latest info on UK filling station operators, so column to look at is the one furthest to the right that indicates No of actual company owned and run sites compared to those that just sell the fuel.

Cheers GTB

[pmg]

PMG,
My mistake should have said 10% and not 90% so I have corrected my post, apologies for any damage caused.

To recognise what filling stations are company owned and those that are dealer operated you need to go onto the websites of those majors and there is a list or map of locations. EG and MFG and others again go on their websites and they will give site locations, EG and MFG have fuel agreements in place for bp, Shell, Esso, Texaco etc so looking at the branding only indicates the fuel sold. But look at the till receipt and you will see exactly who the company is that owns the property and infrastructure, MFG sites on the signware above the front door will usually say MFG somewhere.

So to help everyone out here is the latest info on UK filling station operators, so column to look at is the one furthest to the right that indicates No of actual company owned and run sites compared to those that just sell the fuel.

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Cheers GTB

Thanks I did think 10 % was more likely.


I would have to give up the Esso PCGB fuel card gains to follow your policy as all the local ESSO West Sussex garages are owned by EG, MFG or Rontec. As a regularly visiter to North Norfolk and Mid Wales I would also struggle.


Locally I suspect the Shell is actually owned by them but then V power currently would cost me 10p per litre more than Esso 99 after PCGB discount never mind I get slightly better mpg from Esso than V power.

[crockers]

Talking of fuel. What happens to a car if one accidentally puts E10 fuel in and not E5 ?

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Talking of fuel. What happens to a car if one accidentally puts E10 fuel in and not E5 ?

Nothing. Manual ( and filler cap ) says its fine.

[Skyway]

Talking of fuel. What happens to a car if one accidentally puts E10 fuel in and not E5 ?

E10 is going into mine 90% of the time . 100% fine for a Gen 3 S

[AllanG]

Always E10 in my Gen 2 S, with no probs at all

[pmg]

No problems but less performance and Mpg at the margin