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Skyway wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:48 pm Seriously do not believe that an EV will be any cheaper to run by 2031. All the tax taken from ICE owners will be systematically transferred to EVs, which btw have to reach 70000 miles before they become carbon neutral. Just in time to start with a new set of batteries at £17K a throw

GWL wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:26 pm A friend of mine working for a large car franchise group (which includes a few Porsche outlets) is hearing that the 1st model of Macan EV will be around the £100k mark.

A couple of asides :

I test drove a Volvo C40 Recharge (all Electric, 404 BHP) and the acceleration was phenomenal (made me almost laugh out loud)

I have watched a number of videos on You Tube recently made by disgruntled EV owners (e.g. Audi e-tron) who are getting rid of their EVs because the charging network is dire. One of them could no longer take the anxiety he was developing every time he was going to a charging station, where many chargers would be out of order, or unable to take payment and the process usually took an hour - 1/2 hour queueing, 1/2 hr charging (Not to mention the hassle from his wife questioning his sanity in buying an EV now rather than in 5 years time).

With EV cars generally £10,000 more than the ICE equivalent and a crap charging network , I don't see how the Gov't. is going to stop ICE sales by 2030

I know my Gen 1 Turbo is expensive to run, but with the cost to change on top of the above issues, I'm sticking with it for now.

Skyway wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am It also needs to be a range based on the equivalent of ‘combined’. The amazing performance is on serious rations in an EV if you need to use that range and don’t want to stop and queue for an hour

Jon A wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:45 pm

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:34 pm

Jon A wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:15 pm I think 232 sounds about right with mixed driving although other tests on this model are coming out at 230ish in winter and 260ish in summer.
Not sure any EV will tow a load efficiently so ICE still required here.
It could be that some of the, err, more mature gentleman on here may not have to worry too much about EV’s in the future, but they are definitely here to stay I think.
The fact is they are quicker, quieter and more advanced tech than ICE and I for one don’t intend to get blinkered by nostalgia or just good old fashioned change
Ultimately we all have a choice for some time yet, I’m just not too keen on petrol prices right now and am considering the change up early.
I do like my Macan, I really do, but I’m not wedded to it so to speak…

If you are struggling with the price of fuel in todays market imagine what they'll be when your shiney new 911 arrives in 24

911 will be very low mileage, not main transport - btw got a call today and looks like a ‘23 car now

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:26 am

Jon A wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:45 pm

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:34 pm
If you are struggling with the price of fuel in todays market imagine what they'll be when your shiney new 911 arrives in 24

911 will be very low mileage, not main transport - btw got a call today and looks like a ‘23 car now

Probably due to reduced demand

Jon A wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:38 am

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:26 am

Jon A wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:45 pm
911 will be very low mileage, not main transport - btw got a call today and looks like a ‘23 car now

Probably due to reduced demand

Exactly that, it’s a cancelled order.

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:44 am

Jon A wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:38 am

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:26 am
Probably due to reduced demand

Exactly that, it’s a cancelled order.

Yep. One cancelled order has saved you around 6 months waiting time. Nice

Jon A wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:52 am

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:44 am

Jon A wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:38 am
Exactly that, it’s a cancelled order.

Yep. One cancelled order has saved you around 6 months waiting time. Nice

Still mulling over whether to go the used route but prices are still very strong - hoping that they stabilise and create a bit more value

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 10:12 am

Jon A wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:52 am

PorscheMack wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:44 am
Yep. One cancelled order has saved you around 6 months waiting time. Nice

Still mulling over whether to go the used route but prices are still very strong - hoping that they stabilise and create a bit more value

It's a tricky situation as it's a big ticket item however, I'd be more concerned if they have further cancellations. But you've got time to consider your options; unless those cancellations become real and you end up with a 2022 build slot