Big brother is watching - new car registrations from 6 July 2022

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Bluesnose1812
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Post by Bluesnose1812 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:01 am

THHGTTG wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:50 am
Bluesnose1812 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:24 am
I'm not sure if it would affect premiums for the over 25s that much. Location, previous driver accidents, penalties and miles driven must account for 95% of the premium.
That’s the problem though. All those are “recorded” things. Currently you we can drive like a bunch of spanners and it only impacts our insurance if we’re caught doing it. If there’s someone watching you all the time then your insurance will go through the roof. I used to work with a young girl that had an insurance black box fitted and she actually got a warning from her insurance company saying that if she didn’t moderate her driving style they’d cancel her insurance. She had no points, no fines and had never been pulled-over but the black box was always watching. If she did have her insurance cancelled that would definitely increase her premiums. That will happen to all of us, irrespective of age, location, points, milage driven etc.
But the eu box only records the last 60 seconds and will only be used when there's an accident. And then will only provide data if the engine is shut off immediately otherwise it will carry on recording when the car is stationery. It will be another job for the boys exercise.
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Post by EDZ » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:35 am

It is not just insurance issues, manufactures also track the vehicle and how its being driven and used, which could lead to warranty issues for not using the vehicle as manufacturers instructions etc or abuse, recklessly driving of same. :roll:
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Post by Col Lamb » Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:53 am

Drive along the M1 and M62 in Yorkshire and average speed cameras abound.

Same thing on M6 in Staffordshire and Cheshire.

Average speed cameras on the Cat n Fiddle and in North Wales

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Post by TK421 » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:23 am

Bluesnose1812 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 10:01 am
THHGTTG wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 9:50 am
Bluesnose1812 wrote:
Tue Jul 26, 2022 7:24 am
I'm not sure if it would affect premiums for the over 25s that much. Location, previous driver accidents, penalties and miles driven must account for 95% of the premium.
That’s the problem though. All those are “recorded” things. Currently you we can drive like a bunch of spanners and it only impacts our insurance if we’re caught doing it. If there’s someone watching you all the time then your insurance will go through the roof. I used to work with a young girl that had an insurance black box fitted and she actually got a warning from her insurance company saying that if she didn’t moderate her driving style they’d cancel her insurance. She had no points, no fines and had never been pulled-over but the black box was always watching. If she did have her insurance cancelled that would definitely increase her premiums. That will happen to all of us, irrespective of age, location, points, milage driven etc.
But the eu box only records the last 60 seconds and will only be used when there's an accident. And then will only provide data if the engine is shut off immediately otherwise it will carry on recording when the car is stationery. It will be another job for the boys exercise.
Simple answer. Drive slowly
That’s how it will start, then at some point down the line it will be switched to live all the time.
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Post by Alfanut » Tue Jul 26, 2022 4:24 pm

SAC1 wrote:
Mon Jul 25, 2022 6:26 pm
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Black box now mandatory on new vehicles in EU
July 2022

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New vehicles sold in the EU are now required to have various items of new equipment installed; among the most important is a black box, similar to that installed in aircraft. With the progress of homologations relating to constantly developing driving aids this new measure has been enacted in EU law. Thus, from 6 July 2022, all new vehicles are to be equipped with a black box that which will record various types of data during phases of driving; acceleration, speed, braking, seat belt use and the use of headlights and turn signals will be archived in the system for one minute. The black box joins a number of other connected systems that new cars are required to fit to maintain safety standards, among them tyre pressure monitoring systems.
Is that on all ‘new’ vehicles or simply newly launched models? I suspect the latter, i.e. a gen iii Macan will not have one supposing you can still buy one in 2025.
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