Silly question about 2nd hand 2023 GTS...

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Post by cinders »

Guys,

Sorry to ask a silly question, but are 2nd hand GTS's currently selling on autotrader over the price from buying from Porsche due to availability (like the 911 Turbo S was?)

What are wait times on buying direct from Porsche?

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Post by Col Lamb »

Looks like it, although it is hard to say for sure given the amount of extras added to a GTS.

I see many are selling at OPCs where they are or rather were not supposed to inflate the cost.

Flipping a new Porsche was also supposed to result in a ban on future orders being accepted.

Wait period anywhere from 6m to a year+
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Post by Plyphon »

At the 'height' wait time was commonly reported back here as 18 months - but that was before the cost of living crisis, inflation crisis, and tech bubble 'crisis' all peaked. There are many who cancelled orders after interest rates on PCP got well into the 10% range.

If you ask your local OPC, they'll tell you the current wait. And then you can come back and tell us!

I would still say GTS's are selling over list as there is still likely to be some waiting list for allocation - but I suspect it's no where near as inflated as it was.

As an aside, I've read (on here I think? Or maybe PistonHeads) that the waiting list for *any* 911 is 18 months currently. So still demand about.
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Post by cinders »

Thanks for the feedback, much appreciated. :)
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It'll be a combination of long lead times and the recent price rise in new cars.
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Plyphon wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 8:53 am As an aside, I've read (on here I think? Or maybe PistonHeads) that the waiting list for *any* 911 is 18 months currently. So still demand about.
Was asking my dealer about 911 waiting times, as I said I'd love to order a new 911 GTS. He said roughly between 18 months and 2 years.

He said most people aren't bothered really, as as soon as they take delivery of their new car they leave a deposit for the next one. They (dealer) will move build slots to ensure the customer gets their next car roughly when they want it. So probably works out well if you get a new Porsche every 2 years.
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Post by PJV997 »

My Macan GTS has Sep build slot for Oct delivery. Deposit placed Jan.

I think you could get a shorter lead time now, particularly if you phone around.
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Post by Scooby_Doo »

There are one or two Macan "S"s on the Porsche used website which are £3-£4k above list, so not confined to GTS.
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Tracky posted a screenshot on another thread of a Scottish OPC with a build slot for a Macan GTS in September, I think. (May have gone by now...)
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Post by adam b »

Col Lamb wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 7:53 am Looks like it, although it is hard to say for sure given the amount of extras added to a GTS.

I see many are selling at OPCs where they are or rather were not supposed to inflate the cost.

Flipping a new Porsche was also supposed to result in a ban on future orders being accepted.

Wait period anywhere from 6m to a year+
Didn’t think there was anything stopping an OPC selling a used car for over list, looks at GT3 and other rare stuff.

Also I imagine flipping back to your own OPC gets you gold stars
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