Service costs and warranty validity

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MikeM wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:38 pm
A few points for your consideration. The S spec in your signature is over £70k OTR with over £14k in additions so not shabby. The high value of additions will negatively influence the residual a little but not the used sale desirability. Porsche service costs I agree are expensive but when compared to the lifetime costs at say 5 years against your previous marks, they actually stand up as the residual is far superior. Never yet kept a Porsche for more than 4 years. (Although I do have other cars much older) If you have a good Indie and are going past 5, definitely would use them, anything less would just stay within OPC and accept that yes, it’s rich but not many people out there spending £70k on a set of wheels for what is a mid size SUV! With plenty cheaper in the VAG stable alone. Are they value for money? No. Is there anything for driving pleasure to compare? In a SUV 🤔 Haven’t found it yet and I’ve had lots of others. Still looking though 👍
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I bought my own scan tool and perform routine maintenance on all my vehicles. I have enough vehicles where time isn't factor, that makes it easier. Use whoever you want to perform service. If you have a warranty claim that was denied and believe your rights as a consumer have been violated hire an attorney. I don't look at any manufacturer as some sort of deity who will judge me at the service counter, if I have documentation that service had been performed then it is what it is. In the long term if you bought a German car you've accepted the risk of an expensive repair at some point and that's just how it is. That being said I believe Porsche are well made vehicles and more than most likely things will be fine. Drive and enjoy!
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MikeM wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:38 pm
Jon A wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:35 pm
MikeM wrote: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:13 pm
Read all your comments here Jon A, just begs the questions 🤔 How long are you planning to keep it and why a Macan❓
Two good questions actually. In answer to the first, I don't know but not long if I hate it (unlikely), but may be six plus years if I love it? The answer to the second question is more nuanced i think. My friend has one and it certainly drives better than anything else i have tried for this type of car (load lugger, dogs in the back, but some "fun driving" too), but like any car it is far from perfect. There are loads of things about my previous F-Pace i would like to have been on the Macan but there are features on the Macan that i like too (suspension is a big one here for me).
So ultimately having spent a lifetime with various BM's and Mercs and not being a fan of Audi's (ironically) here i am ordering a Macan because it is best fit rather than perfect fit to everything i think i want - but mostly it is sixty odd grand and that's exactly where my budget is! :lol:
A few points for your consideration. The S spec in your signature is over £70k OTR with over £14k in additions so not shabby. The high value of additions will negatively influence the residual a little but not the used sale desirability. Porsche service costs I agree are expensive but when compared to the lifetime costs at say 5 years against your previous marks, they actually stand up as the residual is far superior. Never yet kept a Porsche for more than 4 years. (Although I do have other cars much older) If you have a good Indie and are going past 5, definitely would use them, anything less would just stay within OPC and accept that yes, it’s rich but not many people out there spending £70k on a set of wheels for what is a mid size SUV! With plenty cheaper in the VAG stable alone. Are they value for money? No. Is there anything for driving pleasure to compare? In a SUV 🤔 Haven’t found it yet and I’ve had lots of others. Still looking though 👍
All good points Mike and you are bang on with the cost of my spec but man maths tells me that the £2k OTR is to be ignored! :lol: Having said that i am in mid process of paring it down a little, not least by changing to Jet Black.
For me, i think i would use a hybrid model and stick with OPC service for initial term but use an indie to carry out any consumable changes such as brake pads, tyres etc. Residuals is a good shout and can be added to my multiple reasons for "why a Macan" and probably helps with the monthly payments too :D
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My recent research into non opc quoted service costs for base macan show it is possible to get annual oil/filter changes for £100 at NTS or £120 at Halfords using block exemption oem filter parts and c20 oil and getting service light reset. Halford also do a pollen filter change £35 and brake fluid change £40 all using block exemption parts to match opc 2 year service requirements along with a multipoint visual inspection for £30.
The new car warranty is maintained due to block exemption (thank you for the eu). If you are not linked to porsche pcp and are happy to sell on outside the porsche opc network you can run a car serviced to a higher standard ie annual rather than variable oil change intervals at considerably less cost.
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I’d rather use a Porsche independent who can interrogate the ecu and do a pdk service correctly. Servicing by NTS might be fine, but you might as well do it yourself for the same level of completeness.
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macanese wrote: Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:29 pm My recent research into non opc quoted service costs for base macan show it is possible to get annual oil/filter changes for £100 at NTS or £120 at Halfords using block exemption oem filter parts and c20 oil and getting service light reset. Halford also do a pollen filter change £35 and brake fluid change £40 all using block exemption parts to match opc 2 year service requirements along with a multipoint visual inspection for £30.
The new car warranty is maintained due to block exemption (thank you for the eu). If you are not linked to porsche pcp and are happy to sell on outside the porsche opc network you can run a car serviced to a higher standard ie annual rather than variable oil change intervals at considerably less cost.
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Interesting and further strengthens Halfords expansion into servicing. I was impressed with my visit to my local branch to discuss porsche servicing options. They used my reg number to show me that the oil used is c20 approved and they confirmed all parts would be block exemption oem grade parts carrying 2 year guarantee, the same as opc parts guarantees. I have used them for tyres and mots and have found the local branch very professional. The only issue is the geheral feeling that opc servicing is required to maintain trade in values which is debatable. Modern day servicing is hardly rocket science as it involves fluid and filter changes at regular intervals and visual checks which are designed to find work for the opc while maintaining the safety and the value of your asset. I will be exploring the indy route as having "porsche independant specialist" on servicing invoices maybe a more acceptable option to me.
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At trade in the cars is worth what somebody is willing to pay, not sure how much extra you get by having a Porsche stamp V an indie, compared to the extra cost of servicing?

Anybody done the exercise?
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gasgas1 wrote: Mon Jan 17, 2022 10:56 am At trade in the cars is worth what somebody is willing to pay, not sure how much extra you get by having a Porsche stamp V an indie, compared to the extra cost of servicing?

Anybody done the exercise?

Am pretty sure that an OPC would either knock a chunk off their offer, or even not want the car at all, if it had not been serviced at Porsche, especially in the first 3 years of its life... 🤔
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